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Do women hate other women for being beautiful? Let’s talk about The Pretty Penalty—and if it really exists

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Posted by on Wednesday, April 4/2012 · 126 Comments

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So a classic Daily Mail piece ran the other day—and I’m still not sure whether it’s legit or if we all got punk’d.

The writer, one 41-year-old Samantha Brick, insists that her “pleasing appearance” has been a mixed blessing. Sure, random male strangers send bottles of champagne to her table in restaurants; present bouquets of flowers; pay her cab fare and buy her train tickets. But when it comes to other women, apparently it’s Mean Girls 2.0. She says they refuse to be photographed with her; shut her out in fear that she’ll have an affair with their husbands; pass her over for promotions at work; and just generally act like jealous beeyotches.

Yikes! So much to discuss. Could there be truth to what she’s saying… or are people that complain about how pretty they are just self-deluded narcissists? You decide. Here’s a photo of Ms. Brick:

Samantha Brick

Okay, so *I* think she’s a decent-looking woman. I’m even going to go out on a limb and and say she looks quite pretty in the pic below:

Samantha Brick

But there are oh, at last count over 5,000 commenters at the Daily Mail who mostly think she’s delusional and not pretty at all. Ouch! I think it’s photos like this that are giving people pause:

Samantha Brick

And this one:

Samantha Brick

It’s all a bit mean, and I’m not entirely convinced the Daily Mail editors didn’t deliberately take unflattering photos just to stir the pot. But HECK—how can I say this?—if Ms. Brick is getting stopped in the street all the time, then maybe we all should move to London? (Sorry, no offense to the British—loveyouguys!)

Anyway, let’s talk about this. Because I have a lot to say about it, as per usual.

A key reason why this chick may have men falling at her feet

So despite pursuing beauty as my “life’s work” (HAR), I’ll be the first to say that mastering the art of foundation application or a great blow-dry doesn’t a beautiful person make. Of course it helps, but it’s not really enough.

OMG, I can’t believe I’m saying this now, since I totally dissed this word just the other week… but it’s kind of an energy thing.

Let’s just assume for a moment that Samantha Brick is indeed telling the truth here. I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that she gets all this attention from men not just because of her physical appearance (even SHE says she’s no Elle Macpherson), but because she smiles a lot, looks them in the eye, and is genuinely happy, open, friendly and easy to be with.

Whether she is ONLY these things to the opposite sex is up for debate. (Because that does tend to ruffle other women’s feathers. See: any season of The Bachelor. Oh, hi Courtney!)

Courtney Robertson

Anyway, what’s going on with our British friend is all speculation—but for our lives across the pond here, I think the fact that your disposition and attitude can do far more for you than, say, a new lipstick, is worth some consideration. So, smile! Flirt! Be happy! Just be gender equal about it.

Also?

Nobody wants to hear pretty people complain about being pretty

Because it spawns the urge to play the world’s smallest violin.

I mean, if you truly ARE a knockout, then you just come across as a phony, or at the very least someone who doesn’t have real problems. I don’t want to pick too much on my friend V., who has stupidly perfect skin among other genetic blessings, but the other day she pointed to her chin (I’m still not sure of the exact location) and told me the story of how some “crater-sized” pore had finally been unblocked by her Dermalogica facialist. UM, OKAY. I had to tell her to stop talking, because we don’t even speak the same language when it comes to skin problems. (Hello, rosacea?)

On the other hand, if you’re bitching that everyone hates you because you’re beautiful, except you’re kinda sorta not really (or, in Ms. Brick’s case, can we say just “moderately” attractive?), then yes, you WILL be labelled a narcissist. And nothing is more frustrating than dealing with a narcissist because literally any objection you raise to their world view has you automatically categorized as a jealous hater. It’s infuriating.

So yeah… either way, this entire topic is a lose-lose proposition. Best to just suck it up, take your beauty as your cross to bear and simply focus on other things.

Oh, and don’t go too far in the opposite direction either—while nobody likes smugness, there’s no need to brush off compliments (no matter what you look like!). You know how it is: someone tells you you’ve got great eyelashes, and you tell them it’s because you’re using some old mascara you found in the $0.99 bin at Loblaws. It sort of ruins it a bit, no? And makes the compliment-giver feel weird, too. So OWN IT, GIRL. WERK IT. The next time someone praises the pretty, just say “thank you!” and smile.

Is there such thing as a “Pretty Penalty?”

backstage models

It’s easy to think that life is better for beautiful people. And it IS—in some areas. Scientists have actually studied this, and beautiful people are more likely to be happier, earn more money, get a bank loan with a lower interest rate and marry a good-looking and highly educated spouse. (Gosh, now I feel totally validated for helping people move a few notches up on the pretty scale via hair and makeup. Maybe I really AM saving lives? Just kidding.)

But funnily enough, The Economist had an interesting article just the other day on how physical attractiveness can work against you. The researchers wanted to find out what happened when job hunters included photos with their applications. If you were a hot man, you got more call-backs for interviews… but if you were a hot woman, it was the exact opposite. The conclusion was that, with human resources departments comprised of 93 percent females, “old-fashioned jealousy led the women to discriminate against pretty candidates.”

Wow! Now THAT’s ugly.

Another pretty person problem has to do with meeting members of the opposite sex. Now, like I said, I’m almost certain that the Daily Mail lady gets male attention because of the vibe she gives off; objectively speaking, she’s not supermodel-gorgeous. But REAL supermodels? Well, they really do have challenges. My colourist has worked with a lot of models, including a very famous one whose name I’m SURE you’d recognize, and the last time I was in he told me she actually used to hit on him, saying that she couldn’t meet a good man. Which is sort of crazy because he’s probably twice her age and she should be batting men off like flies. But nobody asks her out! Men find her way too intimidating! So believe it or not, a lot of supermodels are also super-lonely. (Maybe Ms. Brick can give them some tips?)

Anyway, let’s discuss:

What’s your take on Samantha Brick—are her complaints legit or is she totally deluded?
Have you ever been jealous of someone’s beauty, or on the flip side, experienced The Pretty Penalty yourself?
Do you think it’s harder or easier to go through life being considered “beautiful”?

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126 Comments

Posted by Maria on Sunday, January 20/2013 at 6:51 pm

I was wondering what kind of foundation women wear to achieve a perfect look. I see alot of women with such perfect make up, they look as if they have been photoshopped. Poreless, no blemishes, what kind of foundation they are wearing. Also, I can find a shade that matches my skin tone, even when I go to macy’s even they have a hard time, finding the right color for me…

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Posted by Ashlee on Thursday, February 14/2013 at 9:43 am

Merle Norman compact it’s thick put on with a round sponge. It comes in a black case and you have to go in the store to buy it. $34

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Posted by sandy on Tuesday, January 22/2013 at 10:26 am

It’s like you said, attractiveness is largely based on energy/attitude. So, no, I would not immediately assume she’s deluded, despite the fact that she’s not physically gorgeous.
And,besides, she’s probably talking about the experiences she’s had up to her life at this point, so you have to consider the fact that she was younger and prettier at some point..that being said, I don’t think beautiful women are automatically discriminated. A lot depends on that woman’s attitude.
I’ve known some really gorgeous women that I wasn’t the least bit threatened by, because they carried themselves with so much dignity that I was sure they weren’t the types to use men and manipulate themselves to a better position(at the job, or at any place in life..).
There are some women who, despite being beautiful, do not get so caught up in their self-image and really have other interests in life..they also generally act like they don’t care much about being gorgeous, in the first place. Which makes it easy for you to see their personality, and relate to them.

The “open, smiley” types are probably the ones that raise the most resentment from other women, not necessarily based on their physical assets, but their attitude. I’ve known quite a few, and they’re the types who are used to manipulating others(especially guys) to get what they want, they’re the types that lead men on to reach some objective, then drop them, they’re also less likely to be able to say “no” if a guy makes his moves. They’re “players”, so seem not to be trusted.
That being said, I’m afraid that women do resent other good-looking women, 90% of the time, and it’s mainly based on the way they’re raised, meaning, to believe that a woman’s worth is mainly based on her attractiveness, instead of “deeper” qualities.
It’s actually funny you mentioned the resume thing. I sent hundreds of resumes out, and the only two interviews I got called to were to companies where the human resources guy who canted me was, well..a guy.lol

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Posted by rahrah on Friday, March 15/2013 at 11:17 am

Not only do many beautiful women have other interests, but not all beautiful women have the easy lives many people assume they have. Some people go so far out of their way to take a beautiful woman and try to “knock her down a peg or two” because they assume she has an easy life and now needs a dose of reality and they will be the one to give it to her. Little do they know there are beautiful women who are fighting cancer, who might be addicted to drugs, who are poor as paupers, who are being physically abused and who are experiencing everything else in life that everybody else is. People are so quick to make assumptions about other people and yet have never said two words to them, but they know so much about them all based on what they look, as if that make any sense.

Personally I never understood jealousy and envy as it always seemed completely futile. No matter how beautiful a woman is, the fact is no matter how much someone hates her for being beautiful, she is still going to walk away from their exchange or encounter still being her incredibly beautiful self and they are going to still walk away looking how they look. It does me no good whatsoever to be catty and bitchy with a woman who works out 5 days a week and has a body that reflects her hard work while I sit on my butt and get bigger, there is no need for me to hate her, because it won’t help me in the least, but maybe getting up and working out myself might be the thing to help me, not hating her. Major sigh, when oh when will we women learn.

Another person’s victory is not your defeat.

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Posted by rahrah on Friday, March 15/2013 at 11:19 am

Meant “based on what they look like”

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Posted by Bah on Thursday, March 14/2013 at 11:26 am

Yes, pretty women do have to deal with hatred of some form or the other. It’s not narcissistic to admit to it but I know that I can never talk to any of my friends about it. The only one I’ve discussed this with is my dad, who was a very good-looking man in his youth and he told me that men used to lie about him to women who’d ask about him. I’ve lost most of my friends recently because earlier I used to dress down and let myself be the butt of all jokes in social situations. Privately, my friends would talk to me about their insecurities with their looks so I used to let them joke about me in public, thinking it’s just their way of getting some attention. But then I realized that they were passing off their jokes as the truth behind my back and saying other nasty stuff about me to men who showed an interest in me. So I started cracking jokes back and dressing up when we went out. I noticed that my friends would wait for me to dress up and then dress accordingly. Earlier thered be a fight to use the bathroom first, but after this, theyd pester me to go get ready first. Andsoon I was told that I had changed..for the worse. I don’t hang with them anymore.
Also, I noticed that if a woman’s bf/hubby said I looked nice it would be followed by immediate character assassination. Now I mostly stay away from women snd ignore them. But once in a while some male friend of mine will point out sn unknoen scowling female staring daggers at me while I’m shopping or just hanging out.
Sadly, I think I starting to hate women.

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Posted by Malena Querida on Monday, March 25/2013 at 5:52 pm

While I am not a knockout and am terribly UN-photogenic, I get a lot of flack from my female counterparts in my social circle. The husbands always try to be more charming to me than they are to their wives. I don’t find it flattering at all.

In public spaces, I seem to get a lot of attention as well. Without bothering to find out if I’m married, I have had men buy a round of drinks for me and my friends for the chance to talk to me.

I’ve got a bit of a stress paunch and find it hard to find a good fit in pants because of it. So, I live in modest, casual dresses, many of which these women claim are dressy. Even in a t-shirt and jeans, I can’t win for losing.

The thing that was most interesting to find was a movie called “Malena” with her as the lead and guess what the recurrent theme was? Being coveted by men and envied by women, to the point of being raped, exploited, and reviled. Only when she dressed in drab clothing did she get redemption.

rahrah hit the nail on the head! If you are a beautiful woman with children, it’s worse. If they can’t take their envy out on you, they’ll do it through the kids.

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Posted by HerDaughter on Sunday, May 12/2013 at 8:46 pm

I’d like to respond to Malena’s points above. First of all, I also don’t like it when men are really overly charming to me. It immediately drives a divide between me and their women, permanently. I’m made to feel like I’ve done something wrong, even if I’m dressed demurely. I even point blank asked a woman once what I had done to make her act so mean towards me and she simply answered, “You were born.” So now I stay home and don’t go out at all and I even refuse to work in office settings anymore which has cut down my job prospects. (If there was a pension for hot chicks, I’d be on it).

Secondly, I think it’s sad, but men seem to think if you have curves in the right places and you wear anything but nun’s clothing, that you’re promiscuous and/or a bimbo. Breasts = bimbo it sometimes feels. It’s annoying when I walk into a supermarket and there’s this girl coming out of there who’s younger and thinner than me, with a face to die for, yet she gives ME a dirty look just because I happen to be more endowed than her. I feel bad enough about my looks and to have someone I envy being envious of me just seems ridiculous! Why can’t we all appreciate our unique gifts? There is a man/woman out there for all of us. Someone who will like what we’ve got to offer.

Finally, I wanted to comment on this movie you mention, Malena, because I have watched it and cried so much for what this poor woman had to suffer. The dramatic irony of it hits me with more ugly force as I get older and people become less compassionate and tolerant. I think I escaped the worst of it when I was young because nobody feels good harassing someone who might be underage. But it sucks to be stuck in a world where you’re not hot enough to make a living by modelling and not plain enough to fit into the working world of women who really run the whole show in my opinion.

Sorry if this post is too long. Feels great to get this off my chest! :-(

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Posted by Malena Querida on Wednesday, May 15/2013 at 7:39 pm

HerDaughter, not long at all.

This set of lines hit home for me, “The dramatic irony of it hits me with more ugly force as I get older and people become less compassionate and tolerant. I think I escaped the worst of it when I was young because nobody feels good harassing someone who might be underage. ”

When I was a little girl and even as a middle schooler, I was praised for my beauty and talent. Women couldn’t get enough of me and delighted in everything I did. “How cute!” “What a smart girl!” “Precious!” They couldn’t pump me up enough.

As I reached high school, older women would often make snide remarks or try to downgrade my looks or talent to keep me in my place. Who knows what that place was.

In bars, which I have only frequented for business events, I have had women purposefully pour drinks down my back, elbow me in the gut, or otherwise, try to get me riled up. I have practiced a very wide-eyed innocent look, quipped, “Oh, my, that was quite a shock!” If elbowed, I rubbed their elbow and ask, “Are you okay? That was a pretty hard hit.”

The two girls (only maturity warrants the label of women in my book) who poured drinks on my back thought it was funny. In one instance, the male friend asked if I was okay. I laughed and said, “Oh, yeah, it was refreshing!”

In the other instance, which was the first time, I did not really know what to do.

HerDaughter, I don’t know what makes these women think it is okay to be so rude but I once asked a woman what I had done to offend her and she said, “You exist.”

I hear you on the weird envy from younger women. I’m close to 50 and a 20 year old tried to pick a fight with me because the man she was with was ogling me and I only found out because she made me aware of it.

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