Oops! Just when I convinced you to start using Retin-A, I go and show you this pic of a red-faced model (from Viktor & Rolf’s F/W ’11 show) and scare you away.
Okay, seriously? The side effects from using Retin-A are NOT this bad.
But if you start digging around the Internet skincare forums, you’ll definitely start to notice people using the term “the uglies” for the initial phase when your skin is adjusting to using a retinoid. Your face gets red, your skin starts to flake and peel, you get dry patches (especially around the nose and mouth) and sometimes, your fine lines and wrinkles can look worse, not better.
It can be tough. (Heck, I’m going through it right now—and believe me, it’s even more fun coupling the Retin-A adjustment period with nine-hour international flights, a cold and your menstrual period.)
But I’m not giving up, and neither should you, because: a) the benefits of using Retin-A are freaking AWESOME (go back and read this post if you need a refresher), and b) there are ways to make the transition into retinoid usage a lot less traumatizing. Which, handily, is the subject of today’s post!
(Note: Just like last time, I’m using the term Retin-A like you would “Kleenex” to describe the entire category of retinoids: Stieva-A, Tazorac, Differin, etc.)
Why Retin-A treatment sometimes fails
It’s not the medicine’s fault. Usually, people give up because they did one or more of the following—and as a result, they over-irritated their skin.
- They used too high of a dosage.
- They used too much of it.
- They used it too often.
- They used it on damp skin.
- They didn’t use enough moisturizer.
- They didn’t wear sunscreen.
You’d think the prescribing dermatologist would tell you this stuff… but sadly, that’s becoming more the exception than the rule. So hopefully I can help!
How to use Retin-A the right way
1. Start with a low dose, and then work your way up.
Retinoids come in various percentages, starting at 0.01 (the weakest), then 0.025, 0.04, 0.05 and finally, 0.1 (the strongest). You might think that starting higher will get you results faster, but it can actually be a recipe for disaster and make you want to abandon ship. Trust me: you need to work your way up.
I think a good percentage for most people to start at is 0.025, which is what I’m using now. I’ve tried 0.01 before, and it didn’t do much of anything. Now, you should know that my skin’s pretty thin and sensitive—so if yours is more hardy, then you could maybe start at 0.05. (Of course, talk to your doctor about this instead of only listening to random people like me on the Internet.)
Alternatively, if even 0.01 is too strong, you could start out with an over-the-counter retinol. RoC is one brand that’s known for its retinol products, but they don’t disclose how much they use, which makes things a bit tricky. So if that’s a problem for you, I’d recommend SkinCeuticals, which has 0.5 and 0.1 percent strengths of retinol (and in general is just a really high quality skincare line that I totally trust):
There are no hard and fast rules for when—or even IF—you need to move up to the next strength. Some people are happy to stay in maintenance mode on a lower dose indefinitely, whereas others, once their skin is used to the medicine, can go for a higher percentage after finishing one or two tubes.
Whether you choose cream or gel depends on your skin type and personal preference. I find the cream easier to work with and less drying—but the ingredients could be slightly comedogenic, so acne-prone skin may be better off with the gel.
2. Wait at least 20 minutes after washing your face to apply it.
This is because when you put Retin-A on skin that’s not completely, 100 percent dry, you’re going to get more irritation. So wash your face with whatever you like to wash it with, and then set a timer for 20 minutes—30 is even better.
Note: Once your skin adjusts, it may not be necessary to follow this step.
3. Apply just a pea-sized amount to your entire face.
This stuff is potent, so a pea is all you need. As per the diagram above, I like to spread it across my fingertips, and then dab it on my forehead, cheeks and chin so that each quadrant of my face has an equal amount before I smooth it around. (With a cream you have more time to blend, but with the gel format you have to work faster since it’s alcohol-based and evaporates quickly.) Go a bit lighter around the nose and mouth, since those are the flake-prone areas.
Don’t be scared about putting it around your eyes: I’ve talked to dermatologists who say that it’s perfectly fine to apply it right on the crow’s feet. After all, that’s one of the best places to let Retin-A do its thing. Some people, however, don’t put any near the eyes because it can definitely make that area look a bit dry and crepey—my experience is that the adjustment takes longer there than elsewhere.
Also worth noting: Retin-A is NOT a spot treatment. If you’re acne-prone, you might be tempted to put a big glop of the stuff on a breakout, but it could burn your skin and make it look even worse. Just spread it all over in a thin layer and let the meds work their magic.
4. Use Retin-A only at night, and be extra-diligent about sunscreen during the day.
The sun’s UV rays break down the vitamin A in Retin-A, making it less active, so there’s no point using it during the daytime because you won’t get the same results out of the product. But that’s not the only reason you should only use it at night. It also makes you much more sensitive to sun exposure—so a fresh application in the morning could put you at higher risk for sunburn, which would only undo all of your hard work!
Also, I would be negligent if I didn’t tell you that you absolutely MUST avoid the sun when you’re on Retin-A. Frequent application of an SPF of at least 30 is key (I use SkinCeuticals), but you don’t want that to give you carte blanche to lie out in direct sunlight. Personally, I think it’s better to wear hats, stay in the shade, etc.—at least if you’re using Retin-A for pigmentation issues, which can come back lickety-split without proper protection.
5. Skip applications if you need to… or use more moisturizer.
If you’re doing all of the above but still finding that the Retin-A makes your skin too irritated, there are a couple of things you can do.
One is to cut back to using it every other night, or every third night, and then gradually working your way up until you can tolerate it nightly. Just be aware that this method will be slower to produce results. Also, some people who use it only once or twice a week have reported that even after months of doing this, they STILL get irritated. I’m no MD, but my guess is that they’re using it too infrequently to make their skin adjust… so they’re in a constant state of irritation and then recovery on a weekly basis. You want to push your skin’s limits a little bit, but still make it manageable.
Another option is to use your Retin-A with a moisturizer. My preferred method is to apply the Retin-A on bare skin, at least 20 minutes after washing, and then wait another 45 minutes before applying moisturizer (or a face oil) on top. The reason for this is that you want to let the Retin-A penetrate for as long as possible before diluting its benefits with another product.
That said, some people prefer to apply their moisturizer straight after washing, and then wait the 20 minutes or more before putting on the Retin-A. I haven’t tried this, and suspect it would make the product even weaker, but it’s really a matter of figuring out what works best for you.
You could also try mixing Retin-A with your moisturizer, but again, this would dilute its strength. Plus, it only works with the cream—the gel format, because it’s alcohol-based, doesn’t really lend itself to mixing.
The good news is that you can use as much moisturizer as you like during the day to counteract the dryness! A Clarisonic is also a godsend to deal with the flakiness.
6. Use caution with other active ingredients.
Here’s where things can get a bit complicated. If you’re a total product junkie like me, then you need to be aware of how the other products in your arsenal can interact with your Retin-A.
Other acids—including glycolic, salicylic and lactic—shouldn’t be used at the same time as your Retin-A. If your skin can tolerate them, use them in the morning.
You should also use any vitamin C treatments in the morning. (Read this post for why you need an antioxidant.)
Hydroquinone plus Retin-A (and sometimes glycolic too) is the gold standard for treating pigmentation issues. You’re meant to use hydroquinone twice daily… so at night, wait the 45 minutes after applying the Retin-A before you layer hydroquinone on top.
Whew! That’s a whole lotta skincare info. As always, please don’t take this as medical advice and talk to your doctor first about whether retinoids are right for you. Also, don’t use them if you are pregnant or breastfeeding.
Now, tell me:
Have you ever tried… and then abandoned… Retin-A?
Do you (or did you) use a different application method than the ones above?
Which products have made the biggest difference to YOUR skin?
Tags: acne, alpha-hydroxy acids, anti-aging, antioxidants, beta-hydroxy acids, Clarisonic, glycolic acid, hyperpigmentation, hyroquinone, lactic acid, Retin-A, retinoids, retinol, RoC, salicylic acid, skincare, SkinCeuticals, sunscreen, Viktor & Rolf, vitamin C









































29 Comments
I have been using Retin-A for about ten years now and have worked my way up to the .1% strength. I only use it three times a week at night only. I measure out a pea sized amount on the back of my hand and then apply teeny dots of it all over my way so that I know my face is getting equal coverage and I am not oversaturating any one area. It can still cause dryness so I use a lot of moisturizer on the evenings I use it. But, I do think it really works at keeping blemishes (and wrinkles) away.
Oh wow – 10 years! You’ll never age
I love these articles – you have totally got me onto Retin A and I’m googling like mad to find stuff in Aus!
Hi there!
I’m from Aus and have been prescribed Differin which she mentions!
Timely article as I have just started using it and have found my skin getting the uglies!
Yay Aussies! Hopefully these tips help with the dryness a bit. There’s also a great article here about the payoff after the ugly stage: http://jezebel.com/277896/perfect-skin-in-365-grueling-days-the-wonders-of-retin+a-micro
HILARIOUS!!! I love it.
I’m so glad! Let me know how you get on if you decide to try this.
Just wanted to give my two cents as an Esthetician and an organic product lover. I know that people rave about the results about Retin-A, but my concern is what your skin goes though to get those results. If you don’t do everything you said above, you will get red, irritated, dry, flaky and also often end up with thinner skin too. I don’t like the appearance of thin, shiny skin- your skin should be thicker for better health and protection. Some people do have very thick keratinized skin, large pores and extreme oil production- and they might be the exception. In addition, older women combating signs of aging already have thin skin due to decreased collagen production, so why make that worse?
I just worry that Retin-A is being prescribed too often for young women that don’t need it and they aren’t using moisturizing or nourishing enough products to replenish. And Cetaphil doesn’t count!
(Sorry for ranting here! This comes up all the time-)
Eminence makes a retinol alternative product line: the Bamboo Firming Serum and the Coconut Age Corrective Moisturizer are fantastic! And they have clinical results exceeding retinols. Look into them!
I just urge gals to be very cautious and talk to a dermatologist And Esthetician that you trust. Not one that just wants to make a buck.
Glad to have your comment! I am a total organic beauty product lover as well… I’ve been off and on with Retin-A but it’s actually one of the few chemical exceptions in my regimen.
Re: the thinning of skin – there is a great article by Dr. Leslie Baumann about that, have you seen it? She explains that it’s only the upper layer that gets thinner with Retin-A (because of the removal of the dead cells) whereas it actually thickens the underlying dermis: http://skintypesolutions.com/index.php?option=com_article&view=article&id=196.
I totally know what you mean about thin, shiny skin looking weird – but my guess is those people are more likely to be over-doing it on the surface exfoliation, like too many peels or microderm…. because if it they were doing Retin-A they would actually be plumping up and thickening their collagen.
As for Retin-A being prescribed too often, not sure – I don’t know any other young people who use it. Seems like these days you have to beg dermatologists to prescribe you anything! (Which was the case with this for me.) I do think it’s an excellent double-whammy for young women who want to both prevent aging and deal with acne/comedones. Much cheaper than laser treatments they want to sell you on – and safer than going on the pill or spironolactone. Plus, for anti-aging it’s a more natural choice than jacking up your face with Botox and fillers.
I do hear you on the nourishing/natural side though and agree that can do wonders as well – I love Eminence and have that retinol serum!
Actually on that note – I want to do an article on whether we actually need to use moisturizer. Dr. Obagi (derm) and Dr. Hauschka (natural) both say no! Interesting…
Thanks for the reply! I will definitely read that article. You bring up some good points, and we can all learn more about our skin, that’s for sure.
I will say that in Texas, I kind of feel like they give out Retin-A prescriptions like candy- especially to younger women who have minor acne (same goes for Accutane but I won’t get started on that!) And of course, you can pick it up pretty easily at spas- like the Skin Ceuticals one you mentioned.
I guess it all comes down to whether you want to put that much effort into applying it correctly, (like you described) and to go through the dry-ugly phase. For me, the answer is no. And I just worry that many women will skip those steps, or forget about the sun, and that means your skin may be worse off than when you started, I feel.
I’ll keep reading these comments though!
Oh really? I feel like derms never mention it here. They just want you to pay hundreds of dollars on their laser treatments (which don’t work long-term for acne anyway…). I 100% agree about Accutane – I wonder if they get some kind of kickback because it seems irresponsible to be pushing such a dangerous drug on cases of mild acne. That stuff can damage your liver permanently!
Good point about application – if people aren’t prepared to be diligent and hide from the sun like a vampire, then their skin could be worse off from Retin-A, not better.
I used it for about 10 weeks but gave up because I was peeling so bad I looked like a snake and it just wasn’t getting any better
Oh no! What strength were you on? Were you using moisturizer with it?
I’ve been using generic Retin-A for about 18 months now. It’s not the miracle product people claim it to be, however, the results are better than any other treatment I’ve tried. And I took Accutane about 14 years ago and HATED everything about it.
Question for you – why exactly does the skin have to be dry before applying Retin-A? I find that when I try to wait, my skin becomes much more dry.
I believe it’s because it absorbs much more quickly on damp skin – therefore increasing the possibility of irritation. (It’s the same philosophy as applying regular moisturizer to damp skin – dermatologists always tell you to do that right out of the shower if you have dry skin, because you’ll get better results.)
Now, I suppose if you wanted the Retin-A to be more potent you could try it on damp skin to get better penetration… but if you’re already feeling flaky and irritated then it’s probably not a good idea.
When you say you tried waiting and your skin was more dry – do you mean during the 20-min period before putting on the Retin-A? (Because that’s normal.) Or do you mean the next day, compared to when you applied Retin-A on damp skin?
thanks, Michelle.
My skin is so dry in that 20min time period that it is too painful to apply the Retin-A because it has already started to flake.
and thank you for the newest post on moisturizing super dry skin. I can’t wait to try some of these.
Ah ok. Well in that case I would do moisturizer first, wait as long as you can (45 mins?) and then Retin-A on top. Some derms advise that method too. No matter what if you use moisturizer before or after it’s going to diminish the potency… but sounds like you would be fine with that trade-off if it’s causing you pain! Hopefully the longer you use it the more your skin will adjust.
Hi!
I’m 24 and have tried the 0.025 strength on and off for a few months now. I’ve been thinking of giving it another go but I was told by the pharmisist that I should apply the gel, wait 10 minutes and then wash it off, is this okay?
Everytime I use this I get horribly dry skin and I get scared and quit but now that I’m single and NOT looking I might just suck it up and try and get through “the uglies”.
Thanks!
Mary
Hmm I’ve never heard that one! I mean, you could try it and see if you get results… but my feeling is that 10 mins isn’t really long enough to get the benefits of the medication. Have you asked your dermatologist what he/she recommends? I would probably trust their advice over a pharmacist.
Otherwise, you could try the tips I mentioned above re: waiting after washing your face, applying moisturizer with it, etc.
Or ask your derm for a lower strength – 0.01%. Or try an OTC retinol instead.
Hi Michelle!
Just wanted to report back! The past two days I’ve waited 30 min approx. after I washed my face for the night and then applied a pea sized amount of the Retin-A and DIDN’T wash my face after 10 mins. Sooooo much better! My skin is still a bit flaky but no where near as bad as it was before when I was doing that. In the mornings I’ve been using Peter Thomas Roth’s 10% Glycolic Toner (which is amazing FYI!) after I wash my face with Cetaphil. Already a huge improvement in clearing up my weird mid-20′s, mid-winter acne. Can’t wait to visit Toronto and buy the Lactic Acid serum you recommended!
Thanks!
Hi Michelle
I love reading your posts.
I’ve dealt with acne for a long time and before my wedding, I saw an esthetician who recommended a Retinol Serum that contains antioxidants, caffeine, and 90% green tea polyphenols. It’s called Replenix Retinol Plus Smoothing Serum by Topix and there are 3 different strengths of the serums. I live in South Florida and use 0.05% in winter and 0.1% in summer. It really has helped my skin over the last 5 years and because of the caffeine and green tea, I never really dealt with any harsh effects like I did with straight Retin-A.
My question is, do you think these are good ingredients together? I’m wondering if I should get the regular Retin-A from a dermatologist instead and if it would be more effective.
Thanks!
I think if they were formulated together to work synergistically in one product then they are probably fine. Where it’s potentially an issue is when people layer a whole bunch of separate things on their own – that’s when you have to be careful about interactions i.e. glycolic or vitamin C with vitamin A… etc.
If you’re happy with the results you’re getting then no reason to change – but yes a prescription Retin-A would give deeper collagen rejuvenation. (Not sure if your skin is clear right now but it would give you the most improvement for that too.) The dry skin is a bitch yes, but like I said if you start on a low strength, use with moisturizer and exfoliate properly then it’s definitely manageable.
Week 1 I did 2/week, week 2 every other day, this week started daily, but my morning BHA stung a little for 10-20 minutes today. I was hoping the BHA would melt off the flakes, and it did somewhat. But since I’ve only had flakes and no redness, I’ll use the Retin-A 0.25 again tonight, then next time I’ll use yogurt instead of BHA, as yogurt helps me with surface exfoliation, and has never stung.
But I’ll definitely decrease Retin-A frequency if I turn red.
Thanks!
Thank you for your very helpful article.
What happens if you spend time outside in the summer without using a sunscreen?
I work in the garden about 8 hours every day in the summer. Sometimes I use sunscreen but not all the time. “How much” sun can you be exposed to outside with no sunscreen once you start using
Retin-A?
in addition to my first email to you which was incomplete :
My question – what actually happens to your skin
after you’ve started using Retin-A if you spend time out in the sun, but do not use a sunscreen?
FYI re my skin – I spend a huge amount of time outside in the sun during the summer, and I don’t always use sunscreen. My skin happens to tan or turn brown quickly. I am Chinese and I am 68 y.o.
Ohhh I’m so glad to read this! I was an over-user, I didn’t want to listen to my derm, and I wanted a miracle RIGHT NOW! Annnnd I learned a serious lesson. I gave myself a sexy, red red red, splotchy chemical burn and made my eyes look like I was 50 (I’m 30). Then I wouldn’t touch it, I was petrified. I also used a bunch of other Asian eye gel things that I couldn’t read the ingredients on (wow did that Asian girl look fresh! Oh wait..she’s Asian.) and some other crap, so that may have contributed. I immediately stopped using anything other than vitamin E oil at all on my face, and tried not to cry; it was my own damn fault after all. My eyes went back to normal after 2 weeks and after 2 months the redness is gone (unless I use certain products, I now have sensitive skin, that’s new). I’ve been eyeballing those tubes of Retin A the last few days, so I googled something and found this! It is very helpful, I no longer feel like a complete and total idiot, and maybe even ready to give this another shot. Sans crazy Asian impulse buys. So thank you!
Hi, great article! I’m just wondering… Because I didn’t wear any sunscreen besides some occasional coconut oil when I went outside… Will I be damaging my skin? And if so, if I continue to use retin a (but this time with a sunscreen) will it make it better? My biggest skin issues is oilyness and overall redness. (Used to have ivory skin with freckles) I’ve been on retin a for 3.5 months now and my mom never made a big to do over it when she was on it. Help! -confused teen-
I have been using retinol 0.1 percent for a week now. I apply it every night after washing my face with Merle Norman face cleaner (in the pink tub). I wait 30 minutes after washing my face. I have experienced mild flakiness and some spots on my face that scab over a bit but all in all it has not been that bad of an experience for me. I started out with 0.025 every night and didn’t have any peeling at all!!!
Also just FYI it sounds gross but on the spots that were extra dry and a little raw I used a store generic of preparation H. It did wonders for the spots and they healed very well. Try it if your face is raw. It will help!!!